Comments on: Explaining myself

By: Simon

Simon — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:21:27 +0000

Just wondering what the ’seemingly’ bit is of the “seemingly self-serving vote on MPs own expenses”?

If it wasn’t actually self-serving, what was it?

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:36:02 +0000

“Empowerment”. And you’re someone interested in “comms”.

Yeh, right.

By: Hoover

Hoover — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:59:28 +0000

“Her ideas to turn the tide of political apathy and the opt-out from democracy that is becoming more widespread are imaginative, important and deserve to be heard.”

The political apathy is only in your head. People are as interested in politics as they always were, it’s just that the elites are in an echo chamber and have no idea what concerns real people.

There is no opt-out from democracy, there’s only an opt-out from the type of politics that Westminster wants to pursue. If anything democracy, in the sense of demos and krator – people power – is stronger than ever before.

Since you’re one of the the UK’s top PR practitioners, how come you don’t get it?

Try reading Clay Shirky, Jeff Jarvis, or even David Cameron’s recent speech about political participation and loss of control – they will explain what is going on.

Hoover.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:52:47 +0000

Perhaps you did mean that the incompetents were the comms people rather than Brown or his political aides, but when Brown says those things when they’re so obviously made in such bad context and in such a bad way, then the “comms or Brown” aspect is a mute one.

By saying that what the comms people advised Brown to do was stupid, you’re also saying that Brown was stupid to follow the advice.

And if he did it off his own back rather than being told to do it by the comms people then you’re saying he’s even more stupid.

Either way, what you’ve said implies that Brown is a non-thinking moron; hats off to you on that one even if you didn’t mean it because it’s self-evident to most people.

By: Guy Dennis

Guy Dennis — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:11:31 +0000

People are outspoken about things they care about. A lot of people in the public relations industry aren’t outspoken about anything – even public relations.

By: Mark Hanson

Mark Hanson — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:28:24 +0000

Getting people re-engaged is THE biggest challenge of our generation. Until we do that we won’t ever have meaningful debate about the big issues and therefore never really solve the big issues.

Solutions that feel like they have been imposed upon people never really work.

By: Janus

Simon — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:21:27 +0000

Just wondering what the ’seemingly’ bit is of the “seemingly self-serving vote on MPs own expenses”?

If it wasn’t actually self-serving, what was it?

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:36:02 +0000

“Empowerment”. And you’re someone interested in “comms”.

Yeh, right.

By: Hoover

Hoover — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:59:28 +0000

“Her ideas to turn the tide of political apathy and the opt-out from democracy that is becoming more widespread are imaginative, important and deserve to be heard.”

The political apathy is only in your head. People are as interested in politics as they always were, it’s just that the elites are in an echo chamber and have no idea what concerns real people.

Since you’re one of the the UK’s top PR practitioners, how come you don’t get it?

Try reading Clay Shirky, Jeff Jarvis, or even David Cameron’s recent speech about political participation and loss of control – they will explain what is going on.

Hoover.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:52:47 +0000

By saying that what the comms people advised Brown to do was stupid, you’re also saying that Brown was stupid to follow the advice.

And if he did it off his own back rather than being told to do it by the comms people then you’re saying he’s even more stupid.

Either way, what you’ve said implies that Brown is a non-thinking moron; hats off to you on that one even if you didn’t mean it because it’s self-evident to most people.

By: Guy Dennis

Guy Dennis — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:11:31 +0000

People are outspoken about things they care about. A lot of people in the public relations industry aren’t outspoken about anything – even public relations.

By: Mark Hanson

Mark Hanson — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:28:24 +0000

Getting people re-engaged is THE biggest challenge of our generation. Until we do that we won’t ever have meaningful debate about the big issues and therefore never really solve the big issues.

Solutions that feel like they have been imposed upon people never really work.

By: Janus

Simon — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:21:27 +0000

Just wondering what the ’seemingly’ bit is of the “seemingly self-serving vote on MPs own expenses”?

If it wasn’t actually self-serving, what was it?

Comments on: Explaining myself

Simon — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:21:27 +0000

Just wondering what the ’seemingly’ bit is of the “seemingly self-serving vote on MPs own expenses”?

If it wasn’t actually self-serving, what was it?

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:36:02 +0000

“Empowerment”. And you’re someone interested in “comms”.

Yeh, right.

By: Hoover

Hoover — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:59:28 +0000

“Her ideas to turn the tide of political apathy and the opt-out from democracy that is becoming more widespread are imaginative, important and deserve to be heard.”

The political apathy is only in your head. People are as interested in politics as they always were, it’s just that the elites are in an echo chamber and have no idea what concerns real people.

Since you’re one of the the UK’s top PR practitioners, how come you don’t get it?

Try reading Clay Shirky, Jeff Jarvis, or even David Cameron’s recent speech about political participation and loss of control – they will explain what is going on.

Hoover.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:52:47 +0000

By saying that what the comms people advised Brown to do was stupid, you’re also saying that Brown was stupid to follow the advice.

And if he did it off his own back rather than being told to do it by the comms people then you’re saying he’s even more stupid.

Either way, what you’ve said implies that Brown is a non-thinking moron; hats off to you on that one even if you didn’t mean it because it’s self-evident to most people.

By: Guy Dennis

Guy Dennis — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:11:31 +0000

People are outspoken about things they care about. A lot of people in the public relations industry aren’t outspoken about anything – even public relations.

By: Mark Hanson

Mark Hanson — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:28:24 +0000

Getting people re-engaged is THE biggest challenge of our generation. Until we do that we won’t ever have meaningful debate about the big issues and therefore never really solve the big issues.

Solutions that feel like they have been imposed upon people never really work.

By: Janus

Michael — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:36:02 +0000

“Empowerment”. And you’re someone interested in “comms”.

Yeh, right.

Comments on: Explaining myself

Simon — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:21:27 +0000

Just wondering what the ’seemingly’ bit is of the “seemingly self-serving vote on MPs own expenses”?

If it wasn’t actually self-serving, what was it?

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:36:02 +0000

“Empowerment”. And you’re someone interested in “comms”.

Yeh, right.

By: Hoover

Hoover — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:59:28 +0000

“Her ideas to turn the tide of political apathy and the opt-out from democracy that is becoming more widespread are imaginative, important and deserve to be heard.”

The political apathy is only in your head. People are as interested in politics as they always were, it’s just that the elites are in an echo chamber and have no idea what concerns real people.

Since you’re one of the the UK’s top PR practitioners, how come you don’t get it?

Try reading Clay Shirky, Jeff Jarvis, or even David Cameron’s recent speech about political participation and loss of control – they will explain what is going on.

Hoover.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:52:47 +0000

By saying that what the comms people advised Brown to do was stupid, you’re also saying that Brown was stupid to follow the advice.

And if he did it off his own back rather than being told to do it by the comms people then you’re saying he’s even more stupid.

Either way, what you’ve said implies that Brown is a non-thinking moron; hats off to you on that one even if you didn’t mean it because it’s self-evident to most people.

By: Guy Dennis

Guy Dennis — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:11:31 +0000

People are outspoken about things they care about. A lot of people in the public relations industry aren’t outspoken about anything – even public relations.

By: Mark Hanson

Mark Hanson — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:28:24 +0000

Getting people re-engaged is THE biggest challenge of our generation. Until we do that we won’t ever have meaningful debate about the big issues and therefore never really solve the big issues.

Solutions that feel like they have been imposed upon people never really work.

By: Janus

Hoover — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:59:28 +0000

“Her ideas to turn the tide of political apathy and the opt-out from democracy that is becoming more widespread are imaginative, important and deserve to be heard.”

The political apathy is only in your head. People are as interested in politics as they always were, it’s just that the elites are in an echo chamber and have no idea what concerns real people.

Since you’re one of the the UK’s top PR practitioners, how come you don’t get it?

Try reading Clay Shirky, Jeff Jarvis, or even David Cameron’s recent speech about political participation and loss of control – they will explain what is going on.

Hoover.

Comments on: Explaining myself

Simon — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:21:27 +0000

Just wondering what the ’seemingly’ bit is of the “seemingly self-serving vote on MPs own expenses”?

If it wasn’t actually self-serving, what was it?

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:36:02 +0000

“Empowerment”. And you’re someone interested in “comms”.

Yeh, right.

By: Hoover

Hoover — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:59:28 +0000

“Her ideas to turn the tide of political apathy and the opt-out from democracy that is becoming more widespread are imaginative, important and deserve to be heard.”

The political apathy is only in your head. People are as interested in politics as they always were, it’s just that the elites are in an echo chamber and have no idea what concerns real people.

Since you’re one of the the UK’s top PR practitioners, how come you don’t get it?

Try reading Clay Shirky, Jeff Jarvis, or even David Cameron’s recent speech about political participation and loss of control – they will explain what is going on.

Hoover.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:52:47 +0000

By saying that what the comms people advised Brown to do was stupid, you’re also saying that Brown was stupid to follow the advice.

And if he did it off his own back rather than being told to do it by the comms people then you’re saying he’s even more stupid.

Either way, what you’ve said implies that Brown is a non-thinking moron; hats off to you on that one even if you didn’t mean it because it’s self-evident to most people.

By: Guy Dennis

Guy Dennis — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:11:31 +0000

People are outspoken about things they care about. A lot of people in the public relations industry aren’t outspoken about anything – even public relations.

By: Mark Hanson

Mark Hanson — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:28:24 +0000

Getting people re-engaged is THE biggest challenge of our generation. Until we do that we won’t ever have meaningful debate about the big issues and therefore never really solve the big issues.

Solutions that feel like they have been imposed upon people never really work.

By: Janus

Steve — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:52:47 +0000

By saying that what the comms people advised Brown to do was stupid, you’re also saying that Brown was stupid to follow the advice.

And if he did it off his own back rather than being told to do it by the comms people then you’re saying he’s even more stupid.

Either way, what you’ve said implies that Brown is a non-thinking moron; hats off to you on that one even if you didn’t mean it because it’s self-evident to most people.

Comments on: Explaining myself

Simon — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:21:27 +0000

Just wondering what the ’seemingly’ bit is of the “seemingly self-serving vote on MPs own expenses”?

If it wasn’t actually self-serving, what was it?

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:36:02 +0000

“Empowerment”. And you’re someone interested in “comms”.

Yeh, right.

By: Hoover

Hoover — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:59:28 +0000

“Her ideas to turn the tide of political apathy and the opt-out from democracy that is becoming more widespread are imaginative, important and deserve to be heard.”

The political apathy is only in your head. People are as interested in politics as they always were, it’s just that the elites are in an echo chamber and have no idea what concerns real people.

Since you’re one of the the UK’s top PR practitioners, how come you don’t get it?

Try reading Clay Shirky, Jeff Jarvis, or even David Cameron’s recent speech about political participation and loss of control – they will explain what is going on.

Hoover.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:52:47 +0000

By saying that what the comms people advised Brown to do was stupid, you’re also saying that Brown was stupid to follow the advice.

And if he did it off his own back rather than being told to do it by the comms people then you’re saying he’s even more stupid.

Either way, what you’ve said implies that Brown is a non-thinking moron; hats off to you on that one even if you didn’t mean it because it’s self-evident to most people.

By: Guy Dennis

Guy Dennis — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:11:31 +0000

People are outspoken about things they care about. A lot of people in the public relations industry aren’t outspoken about anything – even public relations.

By: Mark Hanson

Mark Hanson — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:28:24 +0000

Getting people re-engaged is THE biggest challenge of our generation. Until we do that we won’t ever have meaningful debate about the big issues and therefore never really solve the big issues.

Solutions that feel like they have been imposed upon people never really work.

By: Janus

Guy Dennis — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:11:31 +0000

People are outspoken about things they care about. A lot of people in the public relations industry aren’t outspoken about anything – even public relations.

Comments on: Explaining myself

Simon — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:21:27 +0000

Just wondering what the ’seemingly’ bit is of the “seemingly self-serving vote on MPs own expenses”?

If it wasn’t actually self-serving, what was it?

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:36:02 +0000

“Empowerment”. And you’re someone interested in “comms”.

Yeh, right.

By: Hoover

Hoover — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:59:28 +0000

“Her ideas to turn the tide of political apathy and the opt-out from democracy that is becoming more widespread are imaginative, important and deserve to be heard.”

The political apathy is only in your head. People are as interested in politics as they always were, it’s just that the elites are in an echo chamber and have no idea what concerns real people.

Since you’re one of the the UK’s top PR practitioners, how come you don’t get it?

Try reading Clay Shirky, Jeff Jarvis, or even David Cameron’s recent speech about political participation and loss of control – they will explain what is going on.

Hoover.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:52:47 +0000

By saying that what the comms people advised Brown to do was stupid, you’re also saying that Brown was stupid to follow the advice.

And if he did it off his own back rather than being told to do it by the comms people then you’re saying he’s even more stupid.

Either way, what you’ve said implies that Brown is a non-thinking moron; hats off to you on that one even if you didn’t mean it because it’s self-evident to most people.

By: Guy Dennis

Guy Dennis — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:11:31 +0000

People are outspoken about things they care about. A lot of people in the public relations industry aren’t outspoken about anything – even public relations.

By: Mark Hanson

Mark Hanson — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:28:24 +0000

Getting people re-engaged is THE biggest challenge of our generation. Until we do that we won’t ever have meaningful debate about the big issues and therefore never really solve the big issues.

Solutions that feel like they have been imposed upon people never really work.

By: Janus

Mark Hanson — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:28:24 +0000

Getting people re-engaged is THE biggest challenge of our generation. Until we do that we won’t ever have meaningful debate about the big issues and therefore never really solve the big issues.

Solutions that feel like they have been imposed upon people never really work.

Comments on: Explaining myself

Simon — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:21:27 +0000

Just wondering what the ’seemingly’ bit is of the “seemingly self-serving vote on MPs own expenses”?

If it wasn’t actually self-serving, what was it?

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:36:02 +0000

“Empowerment”. And you’re someone interested in “comms”.

Yeh, right.

By: Hoover

Hoover — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:59:28 +0000

“Her ideas to turn the tide of political apathy and the opt-out from democracy that is becoming more widespread are imaginative, important and deserve to be heard.”

The political apathy is only in your head. People are as interested in politics as they always were, it’s just that the elites are in an echo chamber and have no idea what concerns real people.

Since you’re one of the the UK’s top PR practitioners, how come you don’t get it?

Try reading Clay Shirky, Jeff Jarvis, or even David Cameron’s recent speech about political participation and loss of control – they will explain what is going on.

Hoover.

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:52:47 +0000

By saying that what the comms people advised Brown to do was stupid, you’re also saying that Brown was stupid to follow the advice.

And if he did it off his own back rather than being told to do it by the comms people then you’re saying he’s even more stupid.

Either way, what you’ve said implies that Brown is a non-thinking moron; hats off to you on that one even if you didn’t mean it because it’s self-evident to most people.

By: Guy Dennis

Guy Dennis — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:11:31 +0000

People are outspoken about things they care about. A lot of people in the public relations industry aren’t outspoken about anything – even public relations.

By: Mark Hanson

Mark Hanson — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:28:24 +0000

Getting people re-engaged is THE biggest challenge of our generation. Until we do that we won’t ever have meaningful debate about the big issues and therefore never really solve the big issues.

Solutions that feel like they have been imposed upon people never really work.

By: Janus

Janus — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:23:16 +0000

I’m sure that Hazel’s adopted idea of entering voters into a prize draw will create “excitement and interest about democratic freedoms” in the same way that the national lottery sparks fervour about an opt-in tax with profit creamed off the top by Camelot.

Take your indubitable comparison between amputations and iPods though.